From Fashion to Wellness: Jillian Beck-Rogers’ Journey to Becoming a Health Coach

Welcome to another insightful episode of the ANEW Body Insight Podcast, hosted by Dr. Supatra Tovar and Chantal Donnelly. In this episode, we have the pleasure of speaking with Jillian Beck-Rogers, a certified health and wellness coach. Jillian specializes in helping busy professionals overcome comfort eating habits and regain control of their health through personalized coaching. Her journey from the fashion industry to health coaching is a compelling story of transformation and purpose.

Jillian Beck-Rogers, once entrenched in the fast-paced world of fashion, found her calling in health and wellness coaching. Her experiences in the fashion industry, marked by long hours and high stress, led her to seek comfort in food, a habit that many of her clients also struggle with. Recognizing the need for a change, Jillian transitioned into health coaching, dedicating herself to helping others develop healthier relationships with food and exercise.

Jillian shares a pivotal moment in her life, describing an instance where she found herself in an empty stairwell of a Times Square office building at 12:15 a.m., surrounded by sewing supplies. This moment of realization sparked her decision to leave the fashion industry. The pandemic further solidified her resolve to make a meaningful impact by becoming a health coach. Jillian now focuses on helping individuals understand their cravings and adopt healthier coping mechanisms.

Jillian's coaching approach is rooted in understanding the deeper reasons behind comfort eating. She helps her clients identify their hunger cues and build awareness around their eating patterns. By focusing on mindfulness practices and stress management techniques, Jillian empowers her clients to make better choices and develop sustainable habits. 

A significant part of Jillian's coaching involves decluttering various aspects of her clients' lives to make room for healthier habits. She emphasizes the importance of doing less rather than constantly adding new tasks. By helping clients identify areas where they can reduce stress and simplify their routines, Jillian enables them to focus on achievable goals. This approach not only addresses the immediate issue of comfort eating but also promotes overall well-being.

Jillian encourages her clients to pay attention to what foods make them feel energized and what foods drain their energy. This personalized approach ensures that dietary changes are sustainable and aligned with individual needs. Additionally, Jillian incorporates mindfulness exercises and breathing techniques to help clients calm their nervous systems and improve digestion. 

Jillian's empathetic approach resonates particularly with mothers who often struggle with comfort eating due to the pressures of balancing work and family life. By understanding their past experiences and current challenges, Jillian helps them build healthier relationships with food.

To learn more about Jillian's work, visit her website at  jillianhealthandwellness.co

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Welcome to the ANEW Body Insight podcast.

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Empowering and inspiring your journey to optimal Health.

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Hosted by Dr. Supatra Tovar, clinical psychologist,

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registered dietitian, fitness expert, and author of Deprogram Diet Culture:

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Rethink your Relationship with Food, Heal Your Mind, and Live a Diet

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Free Life. and Chantal Donnelly, physical therapist and author of Settled:

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How to Find Calm in a Stress Inducing World.

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We follow our guests’ journey to optimal health,

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providing you with the keys to unlock your own wellness path.

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Tune in and evolve with us.

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Hello and welcome

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to the ANEW Body Insight podcast.

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I am Dr. Supatra Tovar.

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And I am Chantal Donnelly.

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We are super excited today we have Jillian Beck-Rogers with us.

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And let's see, Jillian is a certified health and wellness

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coach helping busy professionals overcome comfort eating habits

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and get their health back on track through personalized coaching.

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She's dedicated to helping folks find a healthier relationship

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with food and exercise, so they have the energy they need to care

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for their families, work, and the other million things they have on their plate.

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Welcome, Jillian.

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Hi. I am so excited to be here and connect with you guys and your audience.

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Yeah, thank you so much.

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Thank you.

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We're so excited to learn more about you and and learning about you.

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the research that

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I was doing, you used to be in the fashion industry.

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I really want to know about your life during that time.

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And what inspired you to transition out of that and into coaching

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you know, especially people who are struggling with comfort eating.

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What is your inspiration story?

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Yeah, so I hit my breaking point years ago

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in an empty stairwell of a Times Square office building.

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It was. New York City at 12:15 a.m..

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Yes, a.m., and there were silk pins all over the floor

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and the photoshoot that I was assisting with had gone really, really late.

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And I was running back and forth between the sixth and eighth floors.

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And my hustling kind of caught up with me because I tripped on the stairs

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and I spilled all my sewing supplies all over the cold cement stairs,

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and all I was thinking about was I went to a good college

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and got a BFA in fashion design for this?

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And lots of swear words. Of course.

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And I loved my team and all the people that I worked with.

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Luckily, that part was not Devil Wears Prada.

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but I just I felt stagnant.

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I wasn't passionate about fashion the same way I was

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when I was nine, when I decided that's what I wanted to do.

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Aw. And I just, you know, that was all I had ever thought about.

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That's what I worked towards.

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And now I was having this,

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you know, existential crisis of what the heck am I going to do with my life?

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Because I can't imagine doing this till retirement.

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And, you know, I knew that I was meant to do more

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than just run around like a crazy person in the name of polyester.

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And so my frustration often led to me,

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you know, seeking comfort and afternoon and coffee runs.

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It was, you know, a way to satisfy my sugar

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and caffeine cravings and things like that.

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Some days I feel like those, you know, $7 lattes

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and croissants were the only thing kind of getting me through the workday,

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and giving me something to look forward to.

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And it was, you know, soothing.

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It was something fun

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to kind of break up the day and, you know, especially when I needed a distraction.

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But it really, you know, it wasn't solving the problem, right?

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It wasn't solving the problem of, what the heck

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am I going to do with my life?

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What change am I going to make?

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And, you know, fast forward to the pandemic.

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I decided to just take a leap because, you know,

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at that point it was like anything goes right?

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And I decided

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I really wanted to put more good out into the world instead of just more stuff,

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which is often what I felt like I was doing in my role in fashion.

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And I looked at all the things I was really passionate

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about that I actually cared about, that I wanted out of my life and my career.

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The impact that I wanted to make on other people.

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And I connected the dots with health coaching.

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And so fast forward, I got my certification and here we are

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now. I just really like to help people with looking at, you know, what it is

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they're actually craving,

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what is actually going to satisfy them and help them move the needle

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and not just use the food as their coping mechanism.

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Really, it's what it is sometimes. So important.

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It's very similar to the work that I do with my clients.

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So I know that, you know, food just can become, a crutch in a certain way,

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or it can become the coping mechanism for the deeper underlying issues.

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So I'm really glad that you've taken that route.

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Yeah, I think it's it leads to really interesting conversations

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too when you dive deeper into that rather than just eat this eat that, you know.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it it seems like a lot of people,

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most people are going to have a pretty,

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messed up relationship

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with food and are going to have a hard time,

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and really struggling with that relationship

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and trying to align it so that it's a friendlier relationship versus,

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kind of dealing with an enemy.

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It was there something that you discovered when you were trying

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to get out of the fashion industry and start your new career?

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Was there something that really helped you

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that is now resonating with other people?

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Yeah, I think this goes for any change.

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So this kind of helped me in

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starting my business, but also with the comfort eating.

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It's,

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understanding how our brain works when we are trying

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to make changes in order to, you know, not sabotage ourselves.

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So once I kind of understood that, you know, our brains are wired to want

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to keep everything the same, everything very predictable and consistent.

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It kind of, you know, in order to protect us.

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It's like. It's for good reason. Right?

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it helped me to kind of understand those feelings of resistance better,

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which, you know, comes up when you're changing your health habits.

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It comes up when starting a business.

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It comes up with any change you're making in your life.

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You're going to feel

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that resistance of wanting to go back to what's familiar to you.

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So like, for example, if you're trying to stop, you know,

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eating cookies on the couch at night, every single night in order to relax,

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and you're trying to become somebody who doesn't do that,

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you know, but you've been doing that for your whole life, then you're naturally

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going to feel a lot of resistance, even though, you know, doing

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that is going to make you probably, you know, sleep better, have more energy,

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lose weight, like all these things that you really, really want.

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They sound so amazing

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and yet you can't figure out why you keep sabotaging your progress.

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Even though these amazing things await you on the other side.

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You know, it's it makes sense to know that your brain is just doing it

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to help you instead of like, you're just a failure.

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And so that primal part of your brain,

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you know, pulls you back to the old habits where it's comfortable,

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you know, even if those habits aren't necessarily serving you the best.

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And that primal part of your brain

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doesn't really care that those cookies are,

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you know, making you gain weight or at risk for diabetes.

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It just knows that it's your,

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your fix to, calm your nervous system and make you feel safe.

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That's what it's trying to do for you, right?

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So if we can kind of thank that part of ourselves

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for serving us in that way and protecting us and making us

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feel better, we can kind of just move on

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and then reassure ourselves that, you know, good upgrades are coming.

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These changes are okay.

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And I think it helps also, when I remind my clients of that that

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this is normal, this is not you failing, it's just a normal part of the process.

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Come to expect it.

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And I think that can help you to be

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less likely to sabotage yourself or derail yourself.

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When those things kind of come up.

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So I think that was a big shift for me.

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Yeah, that's such a self compassionate way to go about it.

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And it really takes the shame out of it, which I think is

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how you end up eating the cookies on the couch after,

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even though it's part of the self-sabotage. Right?

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You know, it's like you feel the shame and then you go back to the behavior.

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Just do it again.

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Yeah, an awful cycle. But yeah.

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Yeah, yeah, it does sound like it's a, you know, process of talking to yourself.

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It's about trying to create and form

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some different habits because that's an ingrained habit.

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Tell us how your approach might differ from someone else's.

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What do you think that you do that helps people really,

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you know, enact that change?

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Because behavior change is very hard.

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Yeah.

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If you're just kind of attacking it like, you know, I want to stop this completely.

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Do have a method that,

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really resonates with your clients?

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Yeah, I do have a method I kind of walk people through.

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And my big thing is I really try to look way beyond the food.

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Right? Because it's not just about the food.

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A lot of people do have some idea to some extent of what they should be eating.

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Right?

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We can kind of solve that to some extent with a Google search, but

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there's valid reasons why they're not doing it,

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which is the habit change like you just talked about.

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And I think it's really important to not just give people only more

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information or more things to do, but also looking at what they can do less of.

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And so I spend a lot of time with clients, especially the ones

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who are especially overwhelmed,

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or in careers where they just feel bogged down by so much work

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that they just can't even handle one more like to do on their list.

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And so just really looking at what can we do less of?

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Where can we declutter in different areas

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of your life to make space for these new habits?

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Because if we just give you, you know,

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eat more of this or drink more of this water, do more of these workouts,

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which is are things that, you know, I help people with.

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And we do do those.

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But you only do that and you don't take something away to make space for it.

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It's probably just never going to happen.

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So I think that's a key thing.

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I really try to focus on.

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and then I'm also a very big believer

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and, you know, something is better than nothing.

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I think a lot of people do share that, you know, in common with me,

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but I do know some coaches or trainers and things

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who have more of that push, push, push, go, go, go more mentality.

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And it can be a lot

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like really hard and aggressive a little bit with their tactics.

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And that's not really my style.

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I really like to give that motivational push

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with a little bit more understanding, compassion, no judgment

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and I had a mentor many, many years ago

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who had that aggressive style.

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And she, she would just think she meant well,

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but she would literally write an email back and berate me with a number

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list of all the things that I was doing wrong and just really cut

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deep, like I had to show it to other people, be like, this isn't normal, right?

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Aw. And but that was her style.

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And that worked for some people,

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to really make their change.

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But for me, it was just

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it felt very berating and belittling and that was not motivating at all.

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So that really went against a lot of my morals

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and the impact that I wanted to have on people.

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So I try to approach helping people make really small, doable changes,

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even if at the time it doesn't feel like a lot to them,

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but doing it

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with a lot of compassion and understanding,

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because most of us are pretty hard on ourselves as it is, and we don't really.

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We don't need more people to pile on top of.

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Absolutely.

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And I do think that, small changes have been shown

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to be the way forward for lasting behavior change.

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Tell us how you, you know, help people

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make their goals small and achievable.

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Yeah, I think it's also just reminding people to kind of back up a couple steps.

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So if they're like,

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I want to be exercising five times this week, like that's amazing.

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But if you are going from not doing anything

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or maybe going on a walk once in a blue moon, it's not very likely

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you're going to start doing that next week and stay consistent with it.

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So kind of just taking what they've said and maybe knocking it down

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a few times, like, how about we aim for like twice this week?

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Can we stick with that?

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Or just doing like a small chunk of time?

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I have, a trainer friend in the area who her whole thing is like

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ten minute workouts, like, even if you can just do ten minutes.

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And I love that because

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everyone wants to shoot for the moon,

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or else they feel like they're not doing enough.

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But the point is to just get into the habit of doing those

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first couple of steps right, doing it, and then you can perfect

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it and add on to it the more normal it becomes to you.

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But yeah, just taking it and like putting it in a more bite sized chunk.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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And I think, you know, I read a really great book is called Tiny Habits by B.J.

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Fogg. I don't know if you've read that.

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It's a really wonderful.

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But what he suggests is that people take the behavior that they want to learn,

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and they attach it to what they call an anchoring behavior.

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So something that you already, you know, perform at the same time every day.

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say it's like brushing your teeth. Yeah.

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Or waking up in the morning, you attach the behavior to that.

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You make it as small as you possibly can make it

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so that it's something that you can do every day.

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And then you, add like positive reinforcement for yourself afterwards

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to kind of give you that, reinforcement to continue the behavior.

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And I think that that works with a lot of people, and it sounds like

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that's something that you're implementing with your clients.

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Yeah, I love that.

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I've heard it called like habit stacking, too.

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It's like the thing that you already do, like I had a client where I told her

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she wanted to just get moving a little bit

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more, and I was like, how about

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when you make your coffee in the morning, you do like 20 jumping jacks while it's

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brewing or something? Just like, yeah, I could do that.

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And, one client it was really push ups and stuff and it helped.

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So she was just doing like brushing your teeth or something that you already do

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without thinking about it and just add something on.

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So yeah, I love that.

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It's a good that's a wonderful mechanism.

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Yeah.

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I love your approach because it has a softness to it.

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It's almost like the corners are nice and round versus sharp corners

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as to how you, guide people.

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What happens and what I find is that people are so intense

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with changing their diet and changing exercise program.

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Right.

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It's like this

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we want to get on this wellness train, and we're super, super intense about it.

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And that intensity brings on stress.

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And what does stress

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bring on? Sugar cravings, inflammation,

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possibility of getting injured when you exercise.

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Like all the stuff that you don't want when you are starting this health journey.

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And so I love that you have this compassionate,

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soft approach and the incremental and just like, let's.

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Like.

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Just bite off little bits here.

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and then we can always grow.

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We can always get more aggressive later with our changes.

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Yeah. And I think it's always that balance.

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You're trying to strike right where it's like I want to be.

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I'm not going to blow smoke up anyone's ass here.

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You know we to be too soft.

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But it's like we are so hard on ourselves.

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And like you were talking about your nervous system.

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Sometimes we do just need to get ourselves into that,

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you know, parasympathetic nervous system, state for us to,

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you know, have an optimal metabolism and all these things that are,

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you know, working us towards our goals.

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But, you know, being a bully is just not the best way to get that to happen.

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Yeah.

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Something to learn that the hard way with the bullying.

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Yeah. Yeah. she was the worst.

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But do you have.

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a specific clientele that you work with or you kind of work

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with everybody across the board or.

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I. I can feel like I can help

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anyone kind of with that particular habit.

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But I will say the clients that I do help the most are those busy, professional,

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mostly women.

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I mean, I can work with men, but they just happen to be more women.

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I think women can relate to that a little bit more maybe.

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And they're often juggling, you know, work and family.

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And many of my clients are, you know, working on getting healthier

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so that they can either be healthy and strong enough

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to start a family, maybe add to their family.

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That's kind of a a niche I’ve like

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looked at exploring a little bit more, because I really love that

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like that intent behind wanting to get healthier and stronger

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rather than just like, I just want to lose weight.

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There's nothing wrong with that.

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But I think I can relate a little bit more to that type of client

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that's wanting to feel stronger

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and healthier to prepare their body for like, the next phase in their life.

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Right.

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and then some kids or some clients already have kids

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and they are looking at it more from this perspective of

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I want to set a healthier example for my kids.

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And, you know, they were in that cycle of not having a good relationship

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with food and exercise their whole lives, and they just want to do better

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so that they don't struggle with the same things when they get older.

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And ultimately, I love working with these kind of clients

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because they're not just doing it for themselves.

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They understand that it's impacting other people in their lives.

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So that's. That's wonderful.

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And I think, you know,

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mothers in particular

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tend to struggle with comfort eating or, you know,

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eating off of their kids plate if their kid doesn't finish their meal all the way.

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I never did that.

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Never, never once did that.

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Just for the record.

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Good for you. But tell us how you know what.

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What is your approach as far as,

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you know, how do you help them develop better habits?

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What kinds of things do you promote in terms of diet and nutrition?

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Yeah, I mean,

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really looking at so I kind of start off

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with looking at what makes you feel the most energized.

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So not like this one size fits all prescription of food, so to speak,

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or what I think is best for them, but really helping them look at it

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from a place of what gives me energy, what takes away my energy

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and makes me feel kind of like meh later on, and honing in on those foods

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and then

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really looking at mindfulness practices is what it is, kind of break

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down, like the hunger fullness cues and things like that,

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and like other different exercises that help you to just be more in tune

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with your body and be able to trust your own intuition

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and gut to know what's best for you, rather than just having to rely on like,

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a very strict diet or a meal plan.

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because that's something I don't do, right, is

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can give suggestions and just, you know, maybe try this and that.

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But you don't necessarily have to eat this specific way

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just because it works for this person.

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That's exactly what I do with my clients as well.

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I think it's so important that people learn how to tune into their body,

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and that's exactly what you're doing.

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You can tell after you've had a bag of potato chips.

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You know how your body feels. You know how your mouth feel. Not great.

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You don't have great energy.

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And you know when you're eating something, say it's whole foods,

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maybe lots of vegetables and whole grains, things like that.

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You're energized.

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You can keep going for hours and hours on end.

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But if you are only listening to what the diet

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guru over here is telling you, you're never going to really tap into your body.

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So give us an idea of like how you,

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if they've never been in their body, they've only just

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kind of been stuck up in their head.

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How do you help them get into their body?

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What do you do for mindfulness?

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A couple of things.

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I mean, really

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helping them understand their hunger cues, which some people do have.

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I mean, maybe surprisingly, maybe this isn't surprising,

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but a hard time understanding what those hunger cues are

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because I think so much we're so fast paced in everything that we're doing,

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we're not paying attention to how we feel or we're paying attention

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to that hunger cue of, I'm about to eat my arm off

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and I'm going to devour everything in sight.

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So it's more about, I guess, helping people figure out what their hunger cues

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are so that they can kind of plan for food and make better choices.

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And I think is helping them build awareness.

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I think that's what a lot of coaching sessions end up being.

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We may not, like,

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make the most profound like discoveries,

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but it's just understanding like, oh yeah, I do do that.

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Or oh yeah, like I am really stressed.

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And that's leading to X, Y and Z, or just kind of understanding

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what their patterns are like, what is triggering them

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to make certain decisions or make certain choices

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and what the pattern is from there,

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I think is a lot of what's helping them,

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helping them discover,

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and then some other mindfulness practices like

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simple things like breathing exercises and things like that.

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We talked about the nervous system.

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I think that's a big thing I really work on with clients is,

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calming your nervous system because that's the way you're going to get

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your digestion to work properly.

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Right, is calm yourself down, making better choices.

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So we're not just going to eat the bar of chocolate without even thinking about it.

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Oh, those are everything else.

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That's Chantal's forte there.

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I mean I love chocolate, there's no shaming.

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It's chocolate.

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But yeah chocolate is my forte, too, but calming the nervous system

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is what I think she meant.

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I’d like to combine chocolate and calming the nervous system.

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Yeah I mean why not.

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But they they go well together.

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So your clients are mainly women.

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you have occasional men in there as well.

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is there a particular age demographic

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or is it just women of all ages?

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Generally?

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I'd say like 35, 40 to 65.

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There can be like a little bit of a range.

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That's generally around the age, I would say.

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And do you find that they have particular things from their past

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or their childhood that may have led them toward comfort eating?

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Do you go into their. Yeah. Their history?

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Yeah.

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I mean, granted, I'm not a psychologist, right.

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So but I think it's worth just knowing where some of those things come from.

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Right.

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It comes up as to, you know, where are these thoughts around food stemming from?

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Because I think that takes the shame out of it.

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It's just like there's a reason for it.

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This isn't that you're just

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a gluttonous failure or something like that.

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You know, it's it's because as your parents fed you these certain foods or,

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you know, you had comfort around it when you were little.

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I do have a client I've been working with for,

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like a couple of years now where she, you know,

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had like a whole, like, bingeing kind of history.

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And it did stem from her parents had a very strict,

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unhealthy kind of way with food, but in a different way growing up.

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And that kind of impacted her in the opposite way.

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A clash. Yeah, and I think helping,

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is that like having her kind of understand where that came from?

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It's so much more sense for her to switch our behaviors around it

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and make better choices. So now that's like not an issue for her at all.

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but yeah, I think it is important to know

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where those come from because they do are they are rooted in our past in some way.

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And I noticed that for myself, too.

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I mean, I grew up where I had to have, like dessert with every meal because,

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you know, my parents were very much that way and still are.

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And I still love dessert. Like, there's no shame around it.

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But it's like the day is not done until I've had my dessert.

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Like, that was just always the mentality or,

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you know, always rewarding with like, let's go and get this treat

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and wanting it to always be over the top and just knowing

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when you're older, like, no, it doesn't have to be that way.

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You know, I'm not—

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I'm still going to belong with my family

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and still be able to have fun and still be able to celebrate,

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even if it's not in that exact way with that exact food.

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And I think understanding kind of helps change all of that, right?

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Yeah, definitely. Absolutely.

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Well, we're almost out of time for this part of this episode.

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Rogers.

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