ANEW Body Insight
ANEW Body Insight aims to revolutionize the way we think about health and wellness. Co-hosts Dr. Supatra Tovar and Chantal Donnelly explore the symbiotic relationship between nutrition, fitness, and emotional well-being. this podcast seeks to inform, inspire, and invigorate listeners, encouraging them to embrace a more integrated approach to health.
Dr. Supatra Tovar is a clinical psychologist, registered dietitian, fitness expert, and founder of the holistic health educational company ANEW (Advanced Nutrition and Emotional Wellness). Dr. Tovar authored the book Deprogram Diet Culture: Rethink Your Relationship With Food, Heal Your Mind, and Live a Diet-Free Life to be published in September 2024 and created the revolutionary course Deprogram Diet Culture that aims to reformulate your relationship to food and heal your mind so you can live diet-free for life.
Chantal Donnelly is a physical therapist, bestselling author of Settled: How to Find Calm in a Stress-Inducing World, and founder of the wellness company Body Insight, a company dedicated to finding solutions to many of your body’s physical ailments. Chantal created the videos Pain Free at Work and Strong Knees.
ANEW Body Insight
Mindful Eating: Insights with Comfort Eating Coach Jillian Beck-Rogers
Welcome to Episode 4 of the ANEW Body Insight podcast, where we continue our mission to empower and inspire your journey to optimal health. Hosted by Dr. Supatra Tovar, a clinical psychologist, registered dietitian, fitness expert, and author of "Deprogram Diet Culture: Rethink Your Relationship with Food, Heal Your Mind, and Live a Diet-Free Life," and Chantal Donnelly, physical therapist and author of "Settled: How to Find Calm in a Stress-Inducing World," this episode dives deep into the personal and professional journey of Jillian Beck-Rogers, a certified health and wellness coach.
Jillian's work is centered around helping individuals find balance and joy in their eating habits, without the guilt and shame often associated with diet culture. She discusses her philosophy of upgrading food choices rather than eliminating entire food groups, and how she guides her clients to understand and manage their cravings in a healthy way.
Jillian's journey is also marked by her love for rock climbing, a sport that has significantly impacted her life. She talks about how climbing has taught her about pushing past perceived limits, building physical and mental strength, and finding empowerment through challenging activities. This mindful practice has become a crucial part of her routine, offering both physical exercise and mental relaxation.
During the episode, Jillian also provides practical advice for those struggling with comfort eating, especially during midlife transitions like perimenopause and menopause. She emphasizes the importance of slowing down, savoring meals, and understanding the difference between physical and emotional hunger. By tuning into their bodies and making more mindful choices, individuals can achieve a healthier, more balanced relationship with food.
For those who can't work with her directly, Jillian recommends reading "Atomic Habits" by James Clear to understand the science of habit formation and make lasting changes. She also offers a free guide with nine healthy snack and breakfast ideas, which can be found on her website, Jillian Health and Wellness.
Jillian is active on Instagram at @jillianbeckrogers, where she shares tips, recipes, and motivational content to help her followers on their health and wellness journeys. She also hosts various workshops and challenges, such as the upcoming "Conquer Your Cravings" three-day kickstart, which focuses on identifying and satisfying cravings in a healthy way. Jillian Beck-Rogers' website is jillianhealthandwellness.com.
The ANEW Body Insight podcast continues to bring you inspiring stories and expert advice to support your wellness journey. To learn more about the podcast and stay updated on new episodes, visit ANEW Body Insight Podcast.
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Welcome to the ANEW Body Insight
podcast.
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Empowering and inspiring your journey
to optimal health.
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Hosted by Dr. Supatra
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Tovar, clinical psychologist,
registered dietitian, fitness expert
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and author of Deprogram Diet Culture:
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Rethink Your
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Relationship With Food,
Heal Your Mind, and Live a Diet-Free Life.
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And Chantal Donnelly,
physical therapist and author of Settled:
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How to Find Calm in a Stress
Inducing World.
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We follow our guests’ journey
to optimal health,
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providing you with the keys
to unlock your own wellness path.
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Tune in and evolve with us.
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Welcome back to the Anew Body
Insight podcast.
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We are back for the second half
of our interview with Jillian Beck-Rogers.
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Jillian gave us some illuminating
information about her transition
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from the fashion industry to helping
those struggling with comfort eating.
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We are eager to learn a whole lot more.
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Jillian. Welcome back.
Thanks for having me.
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Wonderful.
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You, I have heard,
are an avid rock climber.
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How has this sport enhanced your life?
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What do you learn from it?
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Yeah.
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So it's funny because, like, when I was
younger, I was not considered athletic.
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I mean, I did do dance in grade school
growing up,
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so that was kind of my athleticism,
if we'll even call it that.
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I was not into team sports, though.
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That was not my thing.
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There was one summer
where a friend of mine
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was really into cross-country
and kind of sold me on it.
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I was like,
I'm going to join cross-country.
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And I lasted about, you know, one practice
session, which was supposedly an easy
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session during the summer, and
it was so hot and humid because I grew up
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in Kansas and Kansas City area,
very hot and humid.
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I just about died and I was like,
I am not joining cross country.
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This is not happening.
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So I, I was just never that person
who was very athletic,
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going to the gym was just not something
that was really like on my mind.
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But many like, years ago, I
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got into rock climbing
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because one of my husband's coworkers
invited a group of us to go
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and I think my husband was, like, shocked
that I agreed to it because he was like,
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even though he even knew that
I was just not that person.
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But I was scared of heights.
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But I was intrigued.
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It did seem fun and I was like,
let's try this.
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Why not?
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Thinking
I would probably never try it again.
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But I ended up kind of like loving it.
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And I also just loved
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the feeling of, you know, going past
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what I thought was possible for myself
and feeling stronger and more capable.
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I'm not going to lie, it's
it feels very empowering.
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When you're in a gym that's predominantly
men, there's definitely women there.
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But when the men are impressed
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at how strong the women are, I'm like,
this is something I can be a part of.
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I like this.
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So I got really into it.
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Me and my husband started going
three times a week,
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and when we lived in New York City
back then, and now we live in LA.
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Eight years later, we're still going
three times a week together.
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so he's my accountability buddy.
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We push each other.
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but it's really
just changed my perspective.
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Like I said, you know,
the exercise doesn't have to be this thing
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that we check off of our list,
that we're just like, ugh I have to do this.
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It can be something.
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Maybe not all of the time,
but it can be something
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that's fun, that you enjoy,
that makes you feel empowered.
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It makes like, for me, climbing
makes me feel strong
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and more capable of ways
that I didn't know that I could be.
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And I was, you know, I surprised myself
with my physical strength
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and all of those things.
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So it just felt very empowering.
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And it's a really good stress relief.
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You know,
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I like to say it's a good exercise
to do for yourself physically,
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but also mentally,
because you're doing this puzzle
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with your brain
and your body at the same time,
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so you can't really be stressing about
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whatever it was
that was stressing you out earlier
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that day while you're on the wall,
or else you might hurt yourself.
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So it's a good way to kind of just unwind
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and have that healthy practice to,
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you know, zoom out from the day,
refocus and reset.
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So that's a big thing for me.
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It certainly is a mindful activity.
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And yeah, most sports do that.
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They get you out of your head.
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They get you out of thinking about what
just happened or what's about to happen,
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because you really have to concentrate
when you're climbing.
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Otherwise you're going to fall.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Do you go utside as well?
Or do you just do the gym?
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Are you going down to J Tree?
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And I have done outdoor
climbing a few times,
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like some in like Chile
even or Vermont and some in Joshua Tree.
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But to be honest, I like all my skills
are just terrible when I go outside.
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So I'm a much better indoor rock climber
than I am outdoors.
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It is that extra layer of
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a lot more danger when you're outside,
or just a different way
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of like being present and like feeling
the rock and stuff like that.
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So I do a little bit of both,
but mostly the indoor climbing.
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I have never wanted to do any indoor
climbing,
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but I think you told me I love this mindful piece. It’s so fun.
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It sounds, but I mean the mindful piece
with the with the challenge
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and the playful and the physical
and all that combined.
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I don't know, you sold me on it.
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I'm going to go try it.
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Come join.
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I get free passes
every month. You're welcome to come.
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Yeah, well,
we're all in the same city, so we should
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Meet up.
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I am somebody who
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just went through menopause, and during
perimenopause, I gained 20 pounds
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that I had a really,
really difficult time losing.
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Do you have because.
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Because you work with people with comfort
eating and and also weight gain.
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Do you have any specific advice for women
who are going through midlife,
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through perimenopause, Menopause?
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Yeah.
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I mean, so
I feel like instead of— my advice would be
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to just instead of looking at
just what you're eating, right.
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Which is I think it's definitely
what diet culture preaches, is
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what you're eating is like all the craze
or what not to eat, really,
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but instead also look at how you're eating
and who you're being when you eat.
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So that piece of really slowing down,
which I think most of us
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maybe have heard or were somewhat aware,
but we don't do as well
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as maybe we should have.
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I mean, maybe I'm speaking for myself,
I, I am a recovering fast eater.
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but slowing down
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in order to savor your food more,
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allow your system to digest properly.
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When we eat fast, we eat in a stress
state, which we were talking about before.
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You know, when we eat really fast,
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we're kicking
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on our sympathetic nervous system,
which really impairs our digestion,
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which is clearly not going to help you
when you're trying to lose weight.
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Right.
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And when we slow down, we're
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also able to notice those hunger
and fullness cues a lot better.
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We're able to let our saliva help
break down our food and make that
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a little bit easier on our system
and all those kind of things.
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And I would say like, a good goal
is to just aim for like 20 minute meals,
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which is probably something
that a lot of people maybe aren't doing.
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I know before
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I was learning about that, I certainly
wasn't spending 20 minutes on my meals.
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I just,
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but I was raised in a house
where we would eat very, very fast.
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So that was something
that I've had to be very mindful of
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and try to slow down.
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in order to help with my digestion
and things like that.
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But slowing down, taking,
you know, breaks in between your bites,
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chewing your food more,
taking some breaths
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and just being present and engaged,
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which I know is something
you guys do a lot, while we eat, because
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sometimes we do shovel that bag of chips
down our mouths when we're
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sitting and watching TV and like,
I sit and eat and watch TV too.
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Sometimes, like I'm guilty of that.
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And if I don't sit down and, like, engage
with all of my senses, notice my food,
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take a few minutes in between eating
to really pay attention to what I'm doing.
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That really helps me to slow down
and know that I'm eating my meal
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and feeling more satisfied with the food
that I'm having,
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rather than going back for seconds and thirds and stuff.
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Because my brain wasn't really engaged
and I just ate it so fast.
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So just
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that big piece of like slowing down,
I think, is the advice that I would give.
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I love that
I call it settle, then savor, right?
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It's like, settle your nervous system
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and then do the mindful
savoring that intuitive eating type thing.
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And I'm I'm like you, I have I'm
guilty of not always doing that.
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But it is something that since I gained
that extra 20 pounds, I've had to really,
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change.
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And I loved how you said, like,
who are you while you're eating?
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I love that that's.
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Like, are you a stressed out person
or are you a calm person?
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Yeah. Yeah.
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And I love how you mentioned diet culture,
because I think a lot of women,
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when they hit midlife,
they go straight to diet culture
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and they are just desperate to find
whatever food
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they need to knock off their list
to lose weight the fastest.
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Tell me your take because I'm very much anti
diet culture and very much about learning.
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You know having people learn
how to tune into themselves.
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How do you handle that
when a client comes in and says,
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I just need to cut all carbs
to help me figure that out?
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Oh. I struggle because I'm just like, no.
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Same.
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In that struggle of like,
not wanting to just tell people
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like what to do because nobody wants to
just be told, like,
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you have to do this
or don't do that or whatever,
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because I don't think we respond
well to that.
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And also it's that piece
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of, you know, your body best, you know,
but I'm trying to help you tune into it
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a little bit better
and make better and more informed choices.
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So it's I mean, my first instinct
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is to not want to, you know,
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tell them no.
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But I think just
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slowing down with that and saying,
you know what?
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If we try it this way instead,
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And like, carbs are our friends.
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You know, it's just looking at
what kinds of carbs really helping them
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upgrade their food rather than looking at,
what are we all cutting out?
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Like, oh, I can't have this,
I can't have that.
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That's just really that whole like you
said, the diet mentality is deprivation,
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which is so depressing.
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And ultimately
we don't want to be following that.
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So how can we take
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what we enjoy or what we're missing
and just upgrade it a little bit?
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Can we make a better choice?
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So maybe not cutting out all carbs cut out
maybe the
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the cheap pizza and go for,
you know, the better option?
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Maybe try the cauliflower crust,
maybe try a whole wheat crust.
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Maybe do it less often.
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maybe look for more quinoa
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and, you know, sweet potatoes
or like better carb options,
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but just not trying to do this
like, all or nothing
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kind of the thing, but just
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upgrading them, is the best way
I can think of describing.
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Love it.
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And I love—
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you had me at carbs are your friend.
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Yeah, I love carbs. Me too.
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And everyone does.
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And I think it is really depressing
for a lot of people to think
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that they have to just cut them all out
and they can never have them again.
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And actually,
that works completely against your body.
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Your body runs primarily on carbs.
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Your brain loves glucose.
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It doesn't love ketones.
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It does not have that.
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Your body does not like to be in ketosis.
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It's actually very
metabolically acidic for you.
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And so I like to help people.
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You know, reprogram their thoughts around,
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you know, what's been told is taboo.
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Do you have kind of an all foods
fit mentality?
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It sounds like you do.
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Yeah.
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I mean, the way that I was taught that,
I also kind of like preach
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in quotes to my clients is thinking
of, foods as like on a scale, right?
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They're not evil.
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And I even have to remind this of myself
sometimes because, you know,
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I think people think like, health
coaches are like,
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because I was just at a bridal
shower this weekend.
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They're like, oh, you're a health coach.
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Oh, so are you eating the dessert?
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I was like, yes, I ate the carrot cake.
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I like I loved it.
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I was like, it's all about balance, right?
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And that's like with foods.
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It's like there's no evil foods.
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You don't need to feel guilty
that you're having it.
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But just think of it
as like the scale of the Twinkie, right?
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To like the homegrown farm to table,
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like what is going to make
you feel the most energized and the best
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what is maybe and feel good in the moment,
but not so hot later.
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And like, let's just try and like,
move the scale up this way
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without labeling it as like an absolute
no or an absolute yes.
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Yeah, that's my philosophy.
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I would say that there are no bad foods,
even though we know
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that there are more healthy
and less healthy foods
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when we say something good or bad,
we vilify these foods
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and that actually increases
cravings and even.
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Makes because we want what
we can't have. Exactly.
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So if we say it's on the table
and you can have it,
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just tune into your body
and listen to your body,
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then you have the freedom
to be able to savor it.
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I think when people have their taboo
foods, they want to eat it
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as fast as possible
because they feel ashamed,
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and so they can actually
take time with it.
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It doesn't have to be something evil
and off limits.
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And then they listen because
you might not eat the entire carrot cake.
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If you're really listening to your body,
you might be like, oh, I actually,
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I think I only wanted a couple bites
and I can put that down.
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And if I want more,
there's more carrot cake to have later.
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So that's a very good philosophy.
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Yeah.
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And I that reminds me of like a client
who she would,
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you know, eat the chocolate bars
and all this other stuff as quickly
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as possible and like, hide it in her car
because, you know, she was like, ashamed.
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So instead, you know, when she realized
that kind of behavior, like you
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said, it's like we want to do this thing
that we're not supposed to do.
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So sometimes we just do it out of,
you know, rebelliousness.
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Right?
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And when we can acknowledge it more,
we take the shame away
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and then we can just,
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like, enjoy the nice piece of chocolate,
but have less of it, maybe.
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Yeah, I love that.
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Well, let me ask you,
if someone wanted to work with you
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but couldn't afford to work with you,
what advice would you give them?
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Would you have them read a book?
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Would you,
you know, send them to, a podcast or what?
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What would you say
to the person who can't be with you?
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Yeah, I mean, I have some advice
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that I would give to just kind of help
with comfort eating.
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first, since you did mention a book,
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Atomic Habits, you were talking about
Tiny Habits earlier.
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So maybe this is similar
and has probably a lot of parallels.
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but Atomic Habits is good
if you are having trouble, like getting
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habits to stick.
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It's a really good way to break down
how to make a habit.
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stick for good.
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So that's something I would suggest
reading, but advice that I would give,
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if someone you know
couldn't afford to work with me
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is, you know,
first of all, like we've talked about,
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enjoying food for a little
comfort is like, not a bad thing.
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Food is not evil.
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like, I have done it before
and still do sometimes and catch myself,
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you know, eating chocolate mindlessly and
thinking like, why did I even eat that?
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I wasn't actually hungry.
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So it's not necessarily
this bad, evil, shameful thing,
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but it can become a problem,
you know, if we're having more
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unwanted weight gain
or other health issues, if we just feel
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at the mercy of our cravings
and don't have autonomy over our body,
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or it just feels like, you know,
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there's this emotional need
that isn't really quite being addressed.
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And that's kind of like me and my story
at the beginning that I shared.
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And so the first thing I would say
is to start with awareness.
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And we talked about that
a little bit earlier.
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So being aware of what your habits are
what is what are your patterns.
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You can't change anything
until we're aware.
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So getting curious about what triggers
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you to reach for certain things
at certain times of day.
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Are you stressed about something?
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Is someone stressing you out?
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Where are you?
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What are you doing?
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What are you actually desiring
in this moment?
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Just asking yourself these questions
with no judgment and just noticing.
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And then I would say
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tuning into those physical hunger
cues to see,
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is this physical hunger
or is this emotional hunger?
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And if you are not feeling
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quite satisfied
after eating all of the time and like
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the chocolate and potato chips
and the glass of wine
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just aren't really doing it for you,
then I would say maybe
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it is more of like this emotional hunger
that we're missing.
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And then from there kind of looking at
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what is the emotion
you're actually desiring in this moment,
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you know, are you desiring
when you're eating these potato chips?
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Are you actually desiring
peace and quiet right now?
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Are you actually desiring a break from
your responsibilities during the work day?
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You know, are you desiring
a moment of joy and pleasure?
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And the other option
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that we just said is, or is it just like
this need for rebellion?
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Do we just want to do the thing we've
always been told we're not supposed to do?
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So just understanding what it is
you actually want out of this,
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and then thinking about what's
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another activity or ritual
that maybe I could try instead?
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So if I'm eating those,
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the glass of wine
in order to relax every single night,
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because the day has just been hectic,
my kids are tugging at me all at the time.
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This is why my one moment to myself
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maybe try, you know, having a bubble
bath and like, locking the door.
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Maybe have a few minutes
to, like, read in a fluffy robe
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or do a hot shower with facial
like something else that you can try
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to nourish yourself in a way
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that you know
may or may not replace the food,
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but is going to satisfy that need
that you have a little bit better.
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I like that bring in, emotional hunger
and physical hunger.
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I had somebody just recently a client
tell me the difference
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for her between the physical hunger
and the emotional hunger.
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Physically, you could feel in your belly.
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And emotional hunger
is a void in your heart.
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I don't know.
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I mean, I don't like that,
but I like that description.
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Right? I don't like that for her.
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I know. Exactly.
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So I think that's very important
to discern between the two.
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And that's amazing, though,
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that she can know that about herself
and sees that difference.
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Absolutely.
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And not everybody's quite that embodied.
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But it is a beautiful thing to be able
to distinguish those two things.
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I did notice that you have some freebies
on your website.
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Maybe that will help people
who want to work with you,
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or maybe if they can't afford
to work with you, I don't know.
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Either way, those freebies are
are we like freebies here? We love freebies!
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Can you tell us.
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You had me at freebie. They need to tell
us a little bit about that?
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Yeah, I have
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a nine healthy snack and breakfast ideas.
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I did breakfast and snacks in particular
because, you know,
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having a good breakfast.
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I am a believer in breakfast
and it helps boost your metabolism,
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get you started for
the day, gives you more energy.
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and I think snacks are not bad.
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Snacks help, you know,
curb your blood sugar, and your cravings.
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It's just about that upgrade thing again.
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Like, how can we still have these things,
but just upgrade what we're having?
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so you can have, you know, nine
00:20:04:19 - 00:20:09:16
of my favorite recipes
on this free guide and discover
00:20:09:16 - 00:20:11:01
kind of how to satisfy your comfort
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food cravings without the guilt, shame,
or depriving yourself.
00:20:14:22 - 00:20:17:22
Because we don't like depriving,
we like food around here,
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and there's some, make ahead, meal prep
tips in there so that you can make it easy
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for yourself and on the go, because I know
people are really, really busy.
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So you can get that at Jillian Health
and wellness.com backslash ideas dash p.
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I need that.
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I need to be better at food prep.
00:20:36:23 - 00:20:40:02
That's one of my my —Don’t we all?
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It's an ongoing thing.
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And do you have some rotating
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you know, workshops or anything like that.
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Is there anything coming up
that's similar to that?
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Yeah, I'm actually hosting next week.
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well, which is in May, but,
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I'm hosting a Conquer
Your Cravings three day kickstart.
00:21:03:07 - 00:21:06:19
So it's going to be similar to like some
of the stuff we've talked about today,
00:21:06:19 - 00:21:11:08
but just really helping people identify,
you know, what, they're actually craving
00:21:11:11 - 00:21:14:19
some healthier ways
to satisfy those cravings
00:21:14:19 - 00:21:17:19
that, you know, don't have any guilt
or shame attached to them.
00:21:18:00 - 00:21:21:04
Some physical,
but actually going a lot beyond
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just the eat this, eat that.
00:21:24:17 - 00:21:27:18
so I do, I'm hoping to run it again,
00:21:27:18 - 00:21:32:16
but I do different workshops
and things, different challenges.
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I've done a mocktail class in the past,
which is really, really fun.
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That's fun.
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so, yeah, lots of different things.
Wonderful.
00:21:39:18 - 00:21:42:22
Well, besides your website,
are you on social media?
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Can people connect with you there?
00:21:45:11 - 00:21:49:24
Yeah, I am primarily on Instagram
because it is the most fun in my opinion.
00:21:51:03 - 00:21:54:09
but I'm @jillianbeckrogers,
so just come say hi
00:21:54:09 - 00:21:58:15
and DM me, that you listen to the podcast
and I would love to connect.
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I'm also on LinkedIn,
but I'm not quite as active on there.
00:22:01:16 - 00:22:04:16
Wonderful. What kind of content you post?
00:22:05:16 - 00:22:08:06
I post,
00:22:08:06 - 00:22:09:12
all sorts of different things.
00:22:09:12 - 00:22:11:01
I mean, it's a good way to know
00:22:11:01 - 00:22:14:10
it's like one of these free events
or things are coming up as well.
00:22:15:12 - 00:22:18:12
but I post,
00:22:18:15 - 00:22:21:07
I mean, a lot of stuff around,
like what we're talking about here.
00:22:21:07 - 00:22:23:04
It's more it's not just like how to
00:22:23:04 - 00:22:26:04
or like eat this, eat that,
but a lot more like kind of transformation
00:22:26:05 - 00:22:29:03
things or tips and things to help
00:22:29:03 - 00:22:32:09
you become more aware of what
your habits are, what you can try instead.
00:22:34:02 - 00:22:35:08
Some fun stuff on there.
00:22:35:08 - 00:22:37:09
I'm going to follow you on Instagram.
00:22:37:09 - 00:22:37:17
Me too!
00:22:37:17 - 00:22:40:23
You can say hi. Yay, we're all going to connect.
00:22:41:11 - 00:22:44:16
Well, we're just about out of time,
but we really want to thank you.
00:22:44:16 - 00:22:45:15
Jillian.
00:22:45:15 - 00:22:48:04
we need more people like you out there.
00:22:48:04 - 00:22:51:24
People who are not just,
you know, militant diet culture people.
00:22:51:24 - 00:22:55:05
People who are really teaching,
how to tune
00:22:55:05 - 00:22:58:13
into yourself about self-awareness,
about mindfulness.
00:22:59:00 - 00:23:02:10
If they can do that
and become their own best expert,
00:23:02:10 - 00:23:06:05
they don't need somebody
yelling at them to stop eating carbs.
00:23:06:05 - 00:23:10:05
Or, you know,
you have to intermittent fast or time restrict eat—
00:23:10:05 - 00:23:10:23
I don’t like those.
00:23:10:23 - 00:23:13:17
No, I think it's just not it's not fun.
00:23:13:17 - 00:23:17:03
And it sounds to me like you're
bringing the joy back into eating.
00:23:17:13 - 00:23:21:06
That's what I'm all about,
because we're designed to eat,
00:23:21:06 - 00:23:25:23
we need to eat, and it should be
a pleasurable and and joyful experience.
00:23:26:19 - 00:23:28:04
Yeah, I love the way you put that.
00:23:28:04 - 00:23:30:03
It's like it is a joy to eat.
00:23:30:03 - 00:23:31:11
And I think that's
00:23:31:11 - 00:23:34:11
maybe something that people aren't sure
about when you're doing like, ooh,
00:23:34:11 - 00:23:35:16
like overcoming comfort eating.
00:23:35:16 - 00:23:37:01
That means you're going to take everything
good away.
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And it's like,
no, it's really just about finding
00:23:38:24 - 00:23:41:05
that better balance
and being more intentional with things.
00:23:41:05 - 00:23:43:09
So I love the way that you put that.
00:23:43:09 - 00:23:45:00
Uh hmmm... you can you can steal it.
00:23:45:00 - 00:23:47:23
“I put the fun back in eating” is your tagline.
00:23:50:06 - 00:23:51:18
I will have to take that.
00:23:51:18 - 00:23:53:10
Thank you so much, Jillian.
00:23:53:10 - 00:23:57:18
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