Transform Your Mobility with Specialist Kim Spencer: ANEW Body Insight Episode 20

Welcome to the landmark 20th episode of ANEW Body Insight, featuring the insightful Mobility Specialist Kim Spencer. In this episode, hosted by Dr. Supatra Tovar, we dive deep into the world of mobility and explore the innovative techniques that make Kim Spencer a leader in her field. Kim's approach to joint mobility is not just about improving movement but enhancing overall well-being and performance. Her unique style, which blends traditional practices with cutting-edge methods, offers listeners a new perspective on how mobility work can transform daily life.

Dr. Tovar discusses with Kim the essential strategies for maintaining joint health, the impact of mobility on mental and physical health, and how listeners can integrate these techniques into their routines for improved life quality. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in health, wellness, and personal development, providing valuable insights and practical advice.

Tune in to learn about the transformative power of mobility from one of the field's most dynamic specialists. Whether you're a fitness enthusiast, a professional athlete, or someone looking to alleviate daily aches and pains, Kim's expert advice will guide you towards a more agile and pain-free life.

For more about Kim Spencer and her work, follow her on Instagram at @mobilityfocuspilates and visit at https://www.studiofocuspilates.com/ and Facebook at Studio Focus Pilates  (https://www.facebook.com/studiofocuspilates/?ref=br_rs&checkpoint_src=1501092823525282) and LinkedIn at Kimberly Spencer (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberly-spencer-66588416/)  

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Thank you for joining us on this journey to wellness. Remember, the insights and advice shared on the ANEW Body Insight Podcast are for educational and informational purposes only and do not constitute medical advice. Always consult with a healthcare professional before making any changes to your health routine. To learn more about the podcast and stay updated on new episodes, visit ANEW Body Insight Podcast at anew-insight.com. To watch this episode on YouTube, visit @my.anew.insight. Follow us on social media at @my.anew.insight on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, and Threads for more updates and insights. Thank you for tuning in! Stay connected with us for more empowering stories and expert guidance. Until next time, stay well and keep evolving with ANEW Body Insight!

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empowering and inspiring your journey to optimal health.


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Hosted by Dr. Supatra Tovar, clinical psychologist,


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registered dietitian, fitness expert, and author of Deprogram Diet Culture:


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Rethink Your Relationship with Food, Heal Your Mind, and Live a Diet-Free


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Life, and Chantal Donnelly, physical therapist and author of Settled:


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How to Find Calm in a Stress Inducing World.


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Here at City Club Los Angeles, we follow our guest’s journey to optimal


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health, providing you with the keys to unlock your own wellness path.


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Tune in and evolve with us.


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Welcome back to the ANEW Body
Insight podcast at City Club LA.


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We are back for the second half
of our interview with Mobility specialist


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Kim Spencer.


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Kim gave us some background
about her inspiration to become a mobility


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specialist, and how she forged her own
niche in the fitness industry.


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We are very excited to learn more.


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So, Kim, can you explain
the functional range conditioning system


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and how your three accreditations
as a mobility and strength specialist


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have impacted your training methods?


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Okay.


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First off, I don't want to butcher
the functional range system


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because it is quite unique.


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it is quite entailed.


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And I don't want to butcher it
because it is very in-depth as well.


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but it is a whole system.


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And I guess for me, the way I interpret
it is it's a system of thinking.


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So it's a system
that gives you reasons why you would


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choose


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whatever tool you end up choosing.


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They give you the tools.


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They give you the research.


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I mean, their team has put an immense
system together where they just take


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so much research


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about the body down from the like,
all the way from the


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cellular level.


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To thermodynamics and things
where my brain is like frying.


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But it's it's great that you can


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be in a system where we all sort of


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speak the same language,
and we're working all in the same system.


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We're just like,


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maybe you're over there across the way
because you have pain in a certain area.


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And really the goal
is always to make a healthy joint first


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everybody's goal in the system,
no matter where they working in a system:


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PT, chiro, strength trainer,


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Pilates person.


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the first thing that you're trying to do
is make a healthy joint


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and so that, you know, again, goes


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to the joint specific exercises


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and tools, so,


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It's basically about creating,
using a system


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to create healthy joints that are.


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Movable.


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That have capacity to tolerate
whatever it is that they need.


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Not everyone needs
to be super mobile, but.


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Every human


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needs to have a spine that works.


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So there's multiple disciplines
that learn the system.


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So there. Are. Yes, yes.


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So you'll often be in a
like my first one I was in with,


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mostly trainers but dancers, athletes.


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chiros. Yes.


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You'll you'll be taking your courses,
your coursework


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with other people in different,
different fields.


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Yeah, absolutely.
And how did you find this


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PT’s. There's a lot of. PT’s.


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How did you hear about this?


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going back to the knee


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CARS. Yeah.


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Discovering about knee rotations and then,


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Like who?


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Who coined CARS and


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then that deep.


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Hole.


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Of rabbit going down that rabbit hole
just led me there.


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and then there was also another,


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Pilates person that I used to work


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closely with closely with in the sense
that over Instagram.


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And she started
to get really into it too. So


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yeah.


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I love that you learned this new system
from a physical therapist, or


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heard about it from a physical therapist,
and then work with people like me.


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I'm a physical therapist
who know nothing about it


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and was completely blown away
by the system.


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So it's just.


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Doctor Andre Ospina


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who who came up with this system,
and now he has a team of people.


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He, is a chiropractor, a chiropractor,


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and there's a lot of chiropractors
in there.


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and, Each accreditation or each course


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that I took
really just expanded on what I kind of,


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I feel like the first time you get there
and you're just.


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Just dipping your toes into the surface
and then your understanding,


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you go into a little bit deeper
and you're like, oh.


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That's. Why I would choose whatever it is.


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and then when I took the last course,
which was


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was like super intense,


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because you usually.


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Watch.


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A lot of videos like weeks to.


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About.


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Two weeks before you take the course
so that you're already


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slightly fried, so that when you go there
they officially fry you and.


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You're like, mush


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by the time you leave.


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But that one was mind blowing for me


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and actually very challenging
and very hard.


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Some of the stuff
that I was learning about was I felt.


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Almost. Beyond my brain's capacity.


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So it took multiple.


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Watching, lots of notetaking,
reviewing my notes, and going back


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and then adding to my notes


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and then going to the course
and adding to those notes. So,


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but it it's nice to be able


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to just continuously learn.


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It feels I feel like even now,


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granted, I'm thinking about my notebook
and just thinking of, like,


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I really need to go back


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and review all these notes again,
but it's nice that you can keep


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not re-experiencing, but.


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Kind of reevaluating
and constantly reevaluating and relearning


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and discovering on, oh, that's why I would


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choose that over that or,


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just different ways to use.


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The tools or.


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I don't know if it's just, it's
it just seems never ending.


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Yeah. In a sense.


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Well, you've always been
a really innovative instructor.


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I remember working side by side with Kim,
and I would always, like, have my side


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eye on Kim, watching what you would do,
because she would just invent all of this


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amazing stuff.


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And it was just so,
you know, just innovative.


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so this must be right up
your alley and expanding all of your knowledge.


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I think I think it is because it was still
being very super joint specific.


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Again, like,


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I'm trying to do something specific
with this hip,


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or I'm doing something very specific
with this knee.


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I use the creativity to. Okay.


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But they have they have a naughty pelvis


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conflicting with the knee
that we're trying to isolate or.


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The hip that we're trying to isolate.


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So I'll have to learn ways
to kind of restrict or block


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certain areas, or give them contact points


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to help them understand where they are.


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I have to.


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Get them into certain positions, create,
find creative ways to get them


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to feel something
that they just can't feel.


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and it's
really about internalizing everything.


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So it's not about putting someone into
an exercise or putting them into position.


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It's really about okay, well what is this
joint need and how do we get that person


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to feel whatever it is
that we're trying to get them to feel?


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Without me being too involved in it?


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Yeah, like a Jedi master at this point.


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Yeah.


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I've been called a magician
at Universal Studios a lot.


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They think that I'm a witch.


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Yeah.


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Oh, my God, you're a magician or you're.


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Which I swear, I'm like,
I just gave you a very simple exercise.


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A good.


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Witch. Yes.


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You keep talking
about how in-depth the system is.


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So you might hate this question,
but I love asking this question.


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So it's
sort of like the elevator pitch question.


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If you had five minutes with someone
and you could only share during that


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five minute time, that's something
that's going to help them mobility wise.


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And they're complaining
about the old age aches and pains.


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We know it's not from old age,


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but you know that general
like I'm getting stiffer as I get older.


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I'm having more pains
floating around my body.


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And you only had five minutes with them.


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Is there some information
that you would always


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pull out, some advice that you would
pull out for somebody like that?


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I mean, honestly, move. More.


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Move more, don't try to fix anything.


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Just move more.


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Now you can move more specifically
if that.


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If I had that five minutes with them,
I would ask


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specifically what?


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And sometimes when I'm at Universal
Studios I have five minutes.


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So I would just tell them move more.


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I would typically give them something
specific.


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So if it was shoulders,
I'd have them just rotate


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just where you are, rotate your shoulders.


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You could choose any position you want.


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Just rotate more.


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Try to have good tension
because most people don't understand.


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They just kind of, you know, to be floppy.


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And it's not flippity floppity,
you know, try to isolate


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your joints and rotate or move them more.


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and that's basically it.


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I mean, that's less than five minutes.


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But then I would take those five minutes
to show them some like one option.


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And I try to


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with shoulders and hips and knees
and ankles.


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It's almost always comes down
to just showing rotations.


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It comes back to like


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CARS, controlled articular rotations typically.


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But sometimes it's.


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just.


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Move more.


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What I gathered from working with you,
I don't,


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I can't remember how many sessions we did,
maybe ten ish.


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A little bit more than ten,
but yeah. Yeah.


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micro movements of torture,
ten sessions of that.


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but what I did,


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what I, I got a lot out of it,
but but one thing I noticed is that.


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And you just said that with the rotation
move more, move in rotation.


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And you said with tension
and I don't know.


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That’s a hard one. So what it was for me, that visual.


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And I think you even gave me this visual
was that I was moving through thick


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mud as I was doing those rotations.


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So anytime I moved my spine,
anytime I moved a shoulder joint


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or an ankle or whatever it was
we were working on, it was like I.


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Was slowly.


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Moving through thick mud
so we could spend hours just on trying


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to move my mid-back, for example,
which I think we did a couple of sessions.


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and that was it.


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That was, that was that tension
that you were talking about.


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And that's new,
especially for people in a Pilates


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world. Like


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I, I've work with people
who have done strength training


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and worked out with weights,
and they seem to understand that tension


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better than Pilates people just think that


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now I feel like maybe


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I, I might have been


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a culprit of that
or might have said that, but like,


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you know, to relax things,
we tend to relax things.


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But, what I've encountered, especially


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with this work and working with people
in five minute segments, is that the body


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really needs that tension to feel stable
most of the time.


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I remember recall
one girl that I was working with.


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She said, you know, she she had some
weird thing that she had to do for


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it was Halloween Horror Nights.


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And she did repetitive,
which is what a lot of us deal


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with in repetitive movement.


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And it was her shoulder
and I just had her do shoulder rotations,


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but with high tension.


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And she she walked away
just like eyeballs


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wide.


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Just like, oh my God, that was amazing.


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You're a magician.
And then anytime I saw her, she was just.


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Like like I'm like, oh my.


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God, my shoulder just like it.


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This is not common, but 100% zero pain.


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All gone,


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pain free the rest of the run.


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Wow. That is not common. But.


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That it was the tension.


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The shoulder just needed that stability
that that


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that rotational tension and stability
throughout that capsule.


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And just to feel like it could do
its job. Wow.


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You work with a very diverse
array of clientele.


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You very. L.A.


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football. Team.


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You have the universal dancers.


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Some pain in the butt, physical therapists
who come see you every once in a while.


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Therapists
you have people with chronic pain.


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Osteopaths that come to me.


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So how do you tailor a program
to that individual person?


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What what what do you think about them?


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How do you formulate your treatment plan.


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So that's the great thing about the system
is number one, joint health.


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So I got to make whatever
they're feeling healthy.


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And I sometimes have to go above
and below. Right.


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Because sometimes attacking that area


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is dealing with fear,
especially if they've been chronic.


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So I got to kind of look above look below,


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And just establish joint health first.


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It's like primary number one joint


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health. Does that joint
do what it needs to do?


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Shoulders should rotate without pain.


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If there's pain there,


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that's the first thing
that we're addressing how we go about it.


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And again it depends on yeah their
physiology their history is their fear.


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Are they willing to do their homework
because


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most of this stuff is input input input.


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You got to constantly drive
input into the tissue.


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And so yeah, just


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it depends on all of those things.


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I'm curious about the fear.


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How do you, you know, as a psychologist,
I think that that's really interesting


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to me.


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How do you get them
to overcome their fear? Oh.


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It depends on the level of
fear that we're dealing with.


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Most of the time it's


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especially with spine,
and neck and shoulder.


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And have a lot of upper,
actually not so much lower.


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But again, there's a dancer that
I'm working with has fear with the ankle.


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it's getting them there,
but not pushing it.


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Right. So, I always say you're nervous.


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The nervous system is queen.


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You cannot disrespect her.


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You have to respect
what she's telling you.


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If she's telling you there's pain.


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Well, first I teach them what type of pain
is okay and what, like no go.


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Ever. Do not push through this pain.


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There's a specific type of pain
that we don't push through.


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And then there's pain, right?


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Are you uncomfortable?
Is there fear there?


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Okay, well, get as close as you can to
that and we'll we'll work with that


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for right now.


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and I have several people
who have had to work through spine


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chronic spine pain
and that they there's a very she knows it


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a very specific exercise where they jump,
they jump and it's like fear.


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And it's like that sends panic
into your nervous system.


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Once that happens, we're not.


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Going to accomplish anything.


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I, I can't talk you through anything
because nervous system is queen.


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She's going to say that is not okay.


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And now you that nervous system
is going to take even more range out.


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So we have to like kind of play.


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We have to be aware of working with that.


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And I try to teach people like today,


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maybe like you,
you only go a few centimeters.


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All right. That's fine.


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But you're still doing that input. Yes.


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Okay great.


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So don't push it.


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Like get as close as you can.


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Maybe the first set is very limited.


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The second set you might get a little bit more.


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And if you don't it's okay.


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Maybe the next day is even worse.


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But then maybe three days.


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Oh my gosh.


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You can go through the whole exercise.


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Awesome. Like don't judge it.


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Don't judge that fear.


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Just just listen to it
and try to work with it.


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I, I used to work with, biofeedback,
for people who have chronic pain.


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And a lot of times
their pain can be mitigated by doing,


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you know, simple breathing exercises,


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learning how to, you know, be
more mindful, even meditating.


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Do you give them some breathing


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Oh absolutely. To help them
calm their nervous system?


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First thing we do in
any of my sessions is breathing.


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We that's the first thing.


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Now that is not, 
incorporated initially in, the system.


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But as you get deeper into the system,
it's very much integrated into the system.


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Which is.


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Also great because you really learn that
until you're like, oh,


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so these are some breathing exercises
that we can do.


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So I absolutely I go through breathing.


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But again, if you are going into a range


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where that nervous system is set off,
it doesn't matter.


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No, no amount of breathing or whatever
is going to help in that moment.


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but you can just.


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Teach the breathing patterns.


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Absolutely.


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Most people don't.


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Know how to
I don't want to say breathe right.


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Because I again I don't like to use wrong
and right but don't.


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Know how to.


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Maximally utilize their breath.


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Very short.


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and breathing exercises are definitely
incorporated, where to breathe into.


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And that of course
is part of that nervous system up tick.


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Oh absolutley. Right. Oh absoluttely.


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So yeah, as dysregulated as you are,
then you don't breathe properly


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and then that becomes a pattern.


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So you go to a session with you and you
no longer know how to breathe properly


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because you've been so tense
and guarded with the pain for so long.


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I go back to why not trying to accomplish
everything today, like get as close


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as you can, and get to that range
and then take an inhale.


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So there's definitely a lot of breath
incorporated.


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Don't talk about. It a lot because.


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You know,


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if people wanted to learn
and learn about the joint mobility,


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you know, mobility,
the big word that's going around.


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Right.


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but, I absolutely talk about breathing,


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using breath as a reset
instead of, like, fixing your posture.


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It's okay.


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Where do we want the joints
and where do you want to breathe?


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That is your reset.


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I hardly ever use the word abs anymore.


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I talk. About the.


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Spine, I talk about the breath.


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We're talking about spine and breath.


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And we're doing a hard exercise. Voila.


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We have the core.


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And I didn't even use that word or abs.


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so, Yes, it's


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it's breathing, using the feedback.


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All that stuff is incorporated.


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and I think, you know, this mobile,


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this magical word of mobility, you know,
people see, like, all these flexibility.


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It's really not about that.


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It's a primary role
is to accomplish joint health.


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And are we,


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creating an environment


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for that specific person
for what they need?


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so, you know, like
my soccer players are telling me,


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and I'm not working with the whole team,
it's just a select few.


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But, you know, they were talking about,
I don't know if you've seen


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like on Instagram,
there's like a Pilates person


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taking them through these crazy exercises
on the reformer and,


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and you know
and and I'm like, yeah, that's it.


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It's fun. It's great.


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But you like you guys are doing so much
for their training.


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When I walk in there doing really good,
actually really good exercise is


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I have a really good team of people
giving them some really good exercises,


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so they don't need more exercises


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where I'm going to come in there
and do more exercises.


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I'm going to make the joints
feel better, work better, move better.


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So a lot of ankle stuff.


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We do toe stuff, we do big toe stuff,
things just that just don't get attention.


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We spend two minutes stretching,
which is which is hard


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for some people
to spend two minutes in a stretch


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relaxing their nervous system,
trying to calm their nervous system down


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because they're always.


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You know, go, go, go. Go, go.


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And just telling them we're going to spend
two minutes relaxing in a stretch.


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They're like.


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Oh my God, it is the.


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Hardest thing there. It's like.


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I'm torturing


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them for two minutes and I'm like, I'm
just asking you to breathe and relax


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into the stretch.
It's all I'm asking you to do.


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So yeah, that is cool.


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You got to shake it up for them.


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It's so great.


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You do workshops,
you have online training,


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and then you have in-person 
studio, one on one training.


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And then, of course, the stuff that you do
with the athletes and, the performers


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at Universal Studios,
can you tell us what's different


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about your workshops
versus, say, your online training?


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so the workshops.


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Is mostly depending on
what kind of workshop,


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because I did one for Pilates teachers
specifically to teach spine.


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just. Telling them. How.


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To get some segmental work,
even just hand cues, audio cues,


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instead of always cueing from the front,
trying to just take those little fingers


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and putting into the back.


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It's funny that we're doing spine work
and that we never touch the spine.


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and so just there's that, there's


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workshops where I just teach


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clients, you know, and from there, studios


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just rotate more, rotate more,
teaching the CARS.


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And the. Controlled articular rotations.


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sometimes I'll teach kin


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stretch class, which is. as.


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A segment of the functional range system


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where you basically teach.


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the functional range
conditioning on a group setting.


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So it takes, you know, they're in a class,


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there could be ten totally different hips
that you're working with.


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So you got to really be on the ball
creative, aware.


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On the ball and socket. Yeah. Duh dun un. Yeah. That,


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Couldn’t resist.


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Can work where the where they are.


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Because it's not about putting someone
in an exercise.


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It's about adjusting whatever exercise.


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Or drill that we're.


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Utilizing
to get something out of that hip.


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So those.


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Are mostly the workshops
that I teach online is


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why do online private,
you know, one on one sessions basically.


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I have, I mentor a few Pilates people


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and they've taken the courses themselves,


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it is in a course where you're like.


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Okay, now I.


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Can go to it's that really a course
where you're like, oh my God, now what?


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I'm like, no, I don't know what.


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I don't know what to do with all of this.


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So I really try to teach them how to.


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One understand it in their own body,
but also hear


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options to teach it, hear options
to teach it in a Pilates setting.


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and then the online
also is so that you can.


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You know,
if you go on there and you're like, okay,


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I really need to work on my hip,
there's like a bunch of hip,


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specific classes where we're trying to,


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open up more space, create more capacity.


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and I make them very, very specific.


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So if you're like, I want to work.


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On hip flexion.


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Boom.


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There's like a dozen
hip flex flexion based classes.


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and it really is that specific.


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It isn't just hip.


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It's you know
hip internal rotation in hip flexion


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or it's you know,
hip internal rotation in abduction.


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So it gets very specific
so that people can utilize it.


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And then in person.


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Yeah.


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We're just again going back to
where's the healthy joint and


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what do you need it for. And


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how can we strength.


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How can we strengthen that.


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And in the process of doing that,
guaranteed we find we'll start with one.


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You know, we I had a client come in


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and she had really bad neck stuff,
and then it turned into


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then we had a shoulder
and then it became dealing with hip.


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And then she was squatting
and she hurt her knee.


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So it's like, guaranteed we will circulate
through the whole system.


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Where we find one thing and you're like,
oh,  if that, if


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I can make that feel great.
I want to make this feel better.


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Because you know what I'm doing
my overhead press.


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I feel pain here.


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It's like, well,
all right, you don't. Have to.


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Function like that.
No, let's get rid of that.


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And then it'll be like.


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Oh, I have a.


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Squatting
and I can't get past a certain weight.


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Well, let's look at the hips. Why not?


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Oh, well, that's.


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Because you're missing this
internal rotation or whatever it is. Wow.


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Well, before we open it
up to questions from the audience,


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how do people find you
other than Instagram?


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Because I can imagine
after people hear this, they're going


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to want to come to one of your workshops
or work with you.


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So my website mobility.


00:25:48:01 - 00:25:51:02
oh my gosh, I don't even know my website.


00:25:51:17 - 00:25:54:15
it's studiofocuspilates.com.


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All one word.? Yes. All one word. Yes.


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and my Instagram is @mobilityfocusedpilates


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because I added the mobility
after I had already had my site,


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for the studio.


00:26:06:04 - 00:26:07:20
So wonderful.


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Well, we would love to open it up.


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to some questions from the audience. Oh no.


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Does anybody have a question? Be nice.


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Don't be mean.


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All right.


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So I'm just wondering,


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with your specialty,


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what is the rate of people that you see


00:26:26:12 - 00:26:28:05
get off of


00:26:28:05 - 00:26:29:14
pain medicine?


00:26:29:14 - 00:26:31:00
Oh, that's a good one.


00:26:31:00 - 00:26:33:17
Most of them are seeing people.


00:26:33:17 - 00:26:36:17
Chiropractor, massage.


00:26:38:25 - 00:26:40:25
You know, it depends on the person.


00:26:40:25 - 00:26:42:01
Right.


00:26:42:01 - 00:26:44:06
so some of my chronic pain people will


00:26:44:06 - 00:26:47:11
probably never come off of this medication
that they're being treated


00:26:47:11 - 00:26:50:00
for neuro stuff.


00:26:50:00 - 00:26:52:05
but I have clients that are like,


00:26:52:05 - 00:26:54:18
oh, yeah,
I don't see my chiropractor anymore.


00:26:54:18 - 00:26:57:15
Or. I,


00:26:57:15 - 00:26:59:14
don't take pain meds


00:26:59:14 - 00:27:02:23
as often, but they still have episodes,
especially in my chronic pain


00:27:02:23 - 00:27:03:08
people.


00:27:05:19 - 00:27:07:04
So there's,


00:27:07:04 - 00:27:10:04
there's different levels to that.


00:27:10:12 - 00:27:13:09
So it depends, but.


00:27:13:09 - 00:27:15:19
It definitely decreases.


00:27:15:19 - 00:27:18:14
For sure, which. Is a huge relief.


00:27:18:14 - 00:27:19:09
Right? Right.


00:27:19:09 - 00:27:22:02
Less less money paid out


00:27:22:02 - 00:27:23:06
even though they're still seeing me.


00:27:23:06 - 00:27:26:07
But yeah, it's still less money. Fewer drugs.


00:27:27:13 - 00:27:29:17
Anyone else have a question?


00:27:29:17 - 00:27:32:04
I see somebody looking ponderous.


00:27:32:04 - 00:27:35:04
We have somebody coming down to the mic.


00:27:35:08 - 00:27:37:07
Come and join us.


00:27:37:07 - 00:27:40:07
Do you work with folks
who have had knee surgeries?


00:27:41:04 - 00:27:44:04
Yes. Yes, my daughter being one.


00:27:44:27 - 00:27:46:18
I missed that. So, yeah, she had two.


00:27:46:18 - 00:27:47:10
Oh, yeah.


00:27:47:10 - 00:27:48:21
She had two surgeries as well.


00:27:48:21 - 00:27:51:13
I actually ended up in this field.


00:27:51:13 - 00:27:53:15
I caught the last bit of that.


00:27:53:15 - 00:27:56:02
But is this
do you work with a lot of people,


00:27:56:02 - 00:27:59:21
you know, like continuously with that,
or is it more preventative, or


00:27:59:24 - 00:28:00:21
is it a mix of folks?


00:28:02:16 - 00:28:02:28
Good


00:28:02:28 - 00:28:05:28
question.


00:28:06:02 - 00:28:09:02
it's probably a mix.


00:28:11:16 - 00:28:11:27
Yeah,


00:28:11:27 - 00:28:14:26
I would say a mix
because there's some preventative.


00:28:14:27 - 00:28:17:27
Some post,


00:28:18:15 - 00:28:21:15
Some trying to get ready for.


00:28:22:19 - 00:28:24:20
so and what would you say


00:28:24:20 - 00:28:28:00
about range of motion, like after, say,
someone who's had surgery?


00:28:28:16 - 00:28:30:21
Depends. Right. It depends.


00:28:30:21 - 00:28:32:15
Like I hate saying.


00:28:32:15 - 00:28:33:18
It depends.


00:28:33:18 - 00:28:36:18
But it really does, right? It depends on.


00:28:37:01 - 00:28:38:18
Their physiology, their history.


00:28:38:18 - 00:28:40:05
Again, fear.


00:28:40:05 - 00:28:42:04
is their fear related to that.


00:28:42:04 - 00:28:42:23
Area?


00:28:42:23 - 00:28:45:23
Is Are they willing to do their homework?


00:28:46:13 - 00:28:49:13
because seeing me one time
a week isn't going to cut it.


00:28:50:14 - 00:28:54:03
but the exercises
that I give are simplistic and,


00:28:55:05 - 00:28:58:03
enough that they can do them at home.


00:28:58:03 - 00:29:01:22
Like,
I try to make it as simple as possible,


00:29:02:02 - 00:29:05:09
and it's really about the intent
that you put into it. So.


00:29:07:17 - 00:29:09:04
yes.I do have another question, too.  I'm


00:29:09:04 - 00:29:13:14
curious about younger folks
that are still developing in their body.


00:29:13:14 - 00:29:14:20
Yeah.


00:29:14:20 - 00:29:17:20
in particular, like let's say


00:29:18:02 - 00:29:20:18
a young person who's interested in soccer


00:29:20:18 - 00:29:23:11
and they're only six seven


00:29:23:11 - 00:29:26:11
and they start off with like,
you know, little kids and stuff like that.


00:29:27:26 - 00:29:31:04
I've had I've given mixed information
about like, well,


00:29:31:04 - 00:29:34:00
they're kind of young to actually
get really serious about that,


00:29:34:00 - 00:29:35:24
even if it's not serious
like it should be,


00:29:35:24 - 00:29:38:28
or it should be more playful
if they're still developing in their body.


00:29:39:24 - 00:29:42:24
Curious about
what do you think about that?


00:29:43:02 - 00:29:46:02
So particularly what I do in my field.


00:29:48:10 - 00:29:49:15
Can be fun,


00:29:49:15 - 00:29:52:26
like, oh, your knee rotates like that
or your ankle does that.


00:29:52:26 - 00:29:55:08
I mean, you're not giving it personally.


00:29:55:08 - 00:29:58:09
I'm not giving them anything
that would harm them or hurt them.


00:29:58:09 - 00:30:02:02
It could grow interest in their body,
listening to their body.


00:30:02:02 - 00:30:05:20
I think teaching a young athlete
to listen to their body,


00:30:05:20 - 00:30:09:26
to understand how to stretch,
to quiet their nervous system,


00:30:11:00 - 00:30:13:02
to not fear when something happens.


00:30:13:02 - 00:30:16:27
I think those are empowering tools
to give a young athlete.


00:30:17:08 - 00:30:20:08
But I'm just curious
mostly about like like


00:30:20:17 - 00:30:24:04
the development of like,
you know, where they are in their body.


00:30:24:04 - 00:30:26:14
Like, you know, bones are still growing.


00:30:26:14 - 00:30:29:10
You know, things are still like
coming into place, right?


00:30:29:10 - 00:30:29:22
Yeah.


00:30:29:22 - 00:30:33:16
So the mobility system
works on a cellular level.


00:30:33:16 - 00:30:34:28
So it's really talking about


00:30:34:28 - 00:30:39:18
using the nervous system
to send chemicals at a cellular level.


00:30:39:18 - 00:30:42:25
So this is where I'm
when you get into the system


00:30:42:25 - 00:30:45:28
it gets really down to the nitty gritty
like that, which, you know,


00:30:46:01 - 00:30:47:28
people don't need to know,
they don't need to hear


00:30:47:28 - 00:30:50:17
that. It’s for me to know
so I can make those decisions.


00:30:50:17 - 00:30:54:25
But, I, I definitely think that,


00:30:56:23 - 00:31:00:09
they,
they can train a lot more than you think.


00:31:00:09 - 00:31:03:09
Like,
I, I just worked with a 12 year old diver,


00:31:03:26 - 00:31:06:26
and I taught her a lot of joint specific stuff,


00:31:07:10 - 00:31:11:01
because it's going to be helpful
for you, like, you know, which. Like building capacity.


00:31:11:26 - 00:31:13:13
Yeah. Just.


00:31:13:13 - 00:31:16:02
Or. Hey, your hip is supposed to do this.


00:31:16:02 - 00:31:21:02
If, it becomes painful to have a hip
doing that and you need to come back in.


00:31:21:13 - 00:31:24:13
Or, You know, if you keep attacking,


00:31:25:25 - 00:31:29:23
if you keep working on this,
you know, part of your ankle


00:31:29:23 - 00:31:32:23
that's going to really help
with your push off through the board.


00:31:33:12 - 00:31:37:02
And we actually discovered
that she was tallus glidie


00:31:37:03 - 00:31:39:24
She didn't
have a good, gliding in the ankle.


00:31:39:24 - 00:31:42:24
So it didn't matter what how many
stretches she was going to be given,


00:31:43:07 - 00:31:44:06
she's going to hit that.


00:31:44:06 - 00:31:47:27
So I taught her about, okay, if you ever
feel that that stiffness comes back.


00:31:47:27 - 00:31:49:23
She, you know, kids are so


00:31:50:22 - 00:31:54:06
malleable
that she came back that like that week


00:31:54:12 - 00:31:58:00
and we could go right into more ankle work
because she got to glide again,


00:31:58:00 - 00:32:01:00
like, just so I think giving them these


00:32:01:00 - 00:32:02:01
tools


00:32:02:01 - 00:32:08:16
Is empowering and can help them maybe not
have as many injuries in the future.


00:32:08:16 - 00:32:13:26
I I when it comes to like adding weight
you know then it's different right.


00:32:13:26 - 00:32:15:20
Like putting weight on the body.


00:32:15:20 - 00:32:17:22
That's then you can do different.


00:32:17:22 - 00:32:20:17
There's different research out there
and people say different things.


00:32:20:17 - 00:32:24:06
But I think this joint specific
type of movement is.


00:32:24:14 - 00:32:27:22
just not going to do nothing
but help them.


00:32:27:22 - 00:32:30:22
Yeah,
they're like little rubber band people.


00:32:31:23 - 00:32:34:14
I mean, I'm never like, yeah— They just snap back into place.  I'm teaching a dance workshop


00:32:34:14 - 00:32:36:13
and I'm going to be working
with five year old, so.


00:32:36:13 - 00:32:38:05
Oh how cute.


00:32:38:05 - 00:32:41:28
Well, we are out of time,


00:32:41:28 - 00:32:46:21
but Kim is a guru
when it comes to movement, and we have


00:32:46:21 - 00:32:51:11
learned a lot about what you do,
although it's just the tip of the iceberg.


00:32:51:25 - 00:32:55:04
I mean, we would love to learn more,
but we don't have the time.


00:32:55:13 - 00:32:58:06
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